Jump to content

Welcome to RWG Forum
Register now to gain access to all of our features. Once registered and logged in, you will be able to create topics, post replies to existing threads, give reputation to your fellow members, get your own private messenger, post status updates, manage your profile and so much more. If you already have an account, login here - otherwise create an account for free today!
Photo

What country has the best Special Forces/Special Operation in the world

- - - - -

  • Please log in to reply
157 replies to this topic

#81
wadan

wadan

    This just keeps on getting better...

  • Member
  • 211 posts
  • Joined 7 Years, 7 Months and 17 Days
HI mates ,


I know this might be a shocker but

Have any body considered the Egyptian Special forces the Saiqa to which Israel had to develop the the Saiqa counter forces called Roh Shakid !!!

And the counter terrorism unit the Egyptian 777
And the Egyptian terrorism unit the Egyptian 999
And Unit 333 - Hostage Rescue Force " remember Malta 1985 !!!!"

cheers

Edited by wadan, 04 July 2008 - 09:51 AM.


#82
Tom

Tom

    This just keeps on getting better...

  • Member
  • 284 posts
  • Joined 7 Years, 4 Months and 29 Days
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Stockwell, London
  • Interests:Rum, Sodomy & The Lash

In all seriousness, since this is a purely opinion based thread, I would have to say the Delta Force operators would have to be the best, that is, if we are sticking to the topic of the best special forces/ops. This group is made up of the best of the best from U.S.N. Seals, Army Rangers, Marine Recon, USAF, and Army Special Forces. These guys are the cream that has risen to the top of their respected units. I would still fear having to face the forces of the Ugandan Liberation Front when machete to machete combat is concerned. These guys weild a mean blade. :thumbsupsmileyanim:



They didn't do very well in Iran 1980 or Somalia 1993. ;)

#83
Tom

Tom

    This just keeps on getting better...

  • Member
  • 284 posts
  • Joined 7 Years, 4 Months and 29 Days
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Stockwell, London
  • Interests:Rum, Sodomy & The Lash

The former South African Recconnaissance units were among the most hard core, well drilled soldiers anywhere in the world. Many are still sought out and a large number went on to serve in the mercenary group Executive Outcomes which was SA / London based (formed by former SA Recces) and who were often hired by governments (incl US and UK) to go in where they wouldnt dare. Trained in a constant state of war what was not only the South African townships - much like the SAS and Northern Ireland - but through constant clandestine government action in neighboring civil wars in Rhodesia, Angola and Mozambique. All part of the former governments regional destabalization campaign. They used to be referred to as silent wars but make no mistake, SA was a country at war for the better half of 30 years.

The motto:

The Special Forces Operator
I am a Special Forces Operator
I will go where others fear to go
I will do what others cannot do
I will face the impossible, and triumph
Always

I seek neither fame not glory
I seek neither medals nor praise
I seek only the acknowledgement of my Brother Operators
For they alone can judge me
And to be counted amongst them is my greatest Honour

I will never dishonour my Brothers
Or the name of Special Forces
I will never turn away from any challenge
I will face anything, and succeed
Nothing will stop me, save Death
And even this will be temporary
For my memory will spur my Brothers on

I will, at all times
Uphold the principles that guide us
Duty, Honour and Loyalty
The highest code of Morals, Principles and Ethics
I will never abandon my post
Or turn from my duty
No matter the consequences

I will always remember my Brothers
Who have made the Supreme Sacrifice
They will be with me at all times
In my thoughts and prayers
Their Deeds will not go unrecorded
And their Songs will not go unsung
Their memory will inspire me
Constantly

I know that wherever I am
Whatever the situation
I am always in my Brothers’ thoughts and prayers
And if ever my need is near me
I know that my Brother Operators will always come to my aid
Swiftly, regardless of danger or risk
To stand by my side and help me

And knowing this gives me strength
To face anything, anywhere, at any time
Resolutely
With Courage and Determination

For I am proud to say
That I stand, counted amongst those few
Those brave and elite few
Silent and unseen, but ever-present

Those who can truly say
“We fear naught but God”

For I am a Special Forces Operator



I prefer "Who Dares Wins" - it's got more of a ring to it than that one!!

#84
JohnG

JohnG

    RWG1.1 Member

  • Member
  • 1,738 posts
  • Joined 6 Years and 8 Days
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Spain

They didn't do very well in Iran 1980 or Somalia 1993. ;)

Well those guys were never actually DELIVERED to Tehran so you can't make any judgments there. And as to Somalia - I am not sure what you are talking about there either. I would like to see anyone else do better under such incredibly [censored] conditions.

It is important to parse the ineptitude of politicians and support units from the actual performance of the men on the ground.

#85
millwright

millwright

    This just keeps on getting better...

  • Member
  • 191 posts
  • Joined 7 Years, 6 Months and 14 Days
LMAO at all the theories and " Google " research.

How many of you have any military experience at all, let alone SF or SPECWAR experience?

The US trains and trains with almost every large-scale organization mentioned. Our advantage is clear. We have more money, better technology and an overall better mindset.

This is NOT US-brainwashed propaganda either. This is coming from someone that has trained with the best everyone has to offer... and knows what each group has to offer.

I respectfully tip my hat to Her Majesty's SAS and the Israeli SF. I've had the pleasure of working with both... and they are by far the most impressive.

#86
FxrAndy

FxrAndy

    Learn or try something new every day!

  • RWG Crew
  • 13,864 posts
  • Joined 8 Years and 17 Days
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Ubique
  • Interests:Watches strangely enough

I respectfully tip my hat to Her Majesty's SAS and the Israeli SF. I've had the pleasure of working with both... and they are by far the most impressive.


Exactly

#87
Dani

Dani

    46

  • Member
  • 3,678 posts
  • Joined 8 Years, 1 Month and 6 Days
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Europe

LMAO at all the theories and " Google " research.

How many of you have any military experience at all, let alone SF or SPECWAR experience?

The US trains and trains with almost every large-scale organization mentioned. Our advantage is clear. We have more money, better technology and an overall better mindset.

This is NOT US-brainwashed propaganda either. This is coming from someone that has trained with the best everyone has to offer... and knows what each group has to offer.

I respectfully tip my hat to Her Majesty's SAS and the Israeli SF. I've had the pleasure of working with both... and they are by far the most impressive.


Everyone here now the US has the best military overall if that is a good thing?who can say..

But like most in the US bigger is not always better..

I hold my hand on other special forces then what the US can provide..

And the comment that you have more money :p man the wars you are keeping going is destroying your country and sheeds the $$ in half almost..

#88
Spy

Spy

    This just keeps on getting better...

  • Member
  • 127 posts
  • Joined 5 Years, 11 Months and 13 Days
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:London
  • Interests:Cars, AV equipment, games, movies and probably watches now !!
I think the debate ends here !

The no.1 crack special forces team is.....

Posted Image

Ten years ago / In 1972, a crack commando unit was sent to prison by a military court for a crime they didn't commit. These men promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the Los Angeles underground. Today, still wanted by the government, they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire... The A-Team.

#89
steppen

steppen

    This just keeps on getting better...

  • Member
  • 374 posts
  • Joined 7 Years, 10 Months and 2 Days
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Berne
well the best are trained in Switzerland

#90
Spy

Spy

    This just keeps on getting better...

  • Member
  • 127 posts
  • Joined 5 Years, 11 Months and 13 Days
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:London
  • Interests:Cars, AV equipment, games, movies and probably watches now !!
Ona semi-serious note, the SAS is probably the best of the groups mentioned, due to a long track record (since 1941) of making life miserable for bad guys from Nazi Germany to al-Qaeda.


The British Special Air Service is one of the most well-known special operations groups. It got its start in World War II, when it carried out numerous missions in North Africa under David Stirling ? making life miserable for the Afrika Korps. The 22nd SAS is the active duty regiment, and has four ?Sabre? squadrons (A, B, D, and G Squadrons), each with 6 officers and 78 men. Two reserve SAS regiments also exist, the 21st (with A, C, and E Squadrons) and the 23rd (with A, B, and C squadrons). When support troops like the 264th Squadron (a communications unit) various headquarters units, and the retirees of R Squadron are added, that the SAS consists of about 1,000 men.

Not as well-known as the SAS, but even more selective, is the Special Boat Section (SBS). This unit consists of three squadrons (C, M, and S Squadrons) and is part of the Royal Marines. SBS members first must undergo SAS selection, then receive additional training in diving, photography, canoeing, and other skills. Among its operations include missions to convince Iraqi troops that amphibious landings were imminent in the 1991 liberation of Kuwait (a mission also performed by SEALs), the liberation of South Georgia during the Falklands War, and covert operations in Northern Ireland.

#91
Toadtorrent

Toadtorrent

    POWERMAX!!!

  • Member
  • 5,553 posts
  • Joined 6 Years, 6 Months and 25 Days
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Camelot (aka CANADA)

I think the debate ends here !

The no.1 crack special forces team is.....

Posted Image

Ten years ago / In 1972, a crack commando unit was sent to prison by a military court for a crime they didn't commit. These men promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the Los Angeles underground. Today, still wanted by the government, they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire... The A-Team.



Hah hah...I love this.

#92
mjmurphy926

mjmurphy926

    Superposter

  • Member
  • 1,327 posts
  • Joined 7 Years, 5 Months and 9 Days
  • Gender:Male

I think the debate ends here !

The no.1 crack special forces team is.....

Posted Image

Ten years ago / In 1972, a crack commando unit was sent to prison by a military court for a crime they didn't commit. These men promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the Los Angeles underground. Today, still wanted by the government, they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire... The A-Team.


I pity da fool who disagrees!! B.A. Barakus will rip your F'in head off!! (Super groovy van too!!)

Posted Image

#93
carlsbadrolex

carlsbadrolex

    Just a liiiittle more....

  • Banned
  • 2,043 posts
  • Joined 6 Years, 9 Months and 4 Days
  • Gender:Male
I kinda blazed through the last 5 pages... has anyone considered that Private Military Companies may have the best special forces? I played with a few of the groups mentioned here and NONE of them had the training, experience or equipment that PMC's have access to.
One thing to consider is that someone in nearly any of these Govt. funded units can leave the unit, apply and be hired with a PMC and instantly make 3-5 x what they were while paid by the govt.
I have two very close friends who work for a PMC based in the UK. (Aegis International). They are extremely well trained, extremely disciplined and extremely well equipped.
And I didnt see that anyone mentioned the Australian Marines. They are not a "special forces" unit. But they are some well trained people. They kicked the living [censored] out of a group of US Marine Force Recon that I worked with for awhile... They beat us bad.... and then spent all night out drinking, and then beat us bad again the next day.

#94
hambone

hambone

    Humorless but smells funny

  • VIP Member
  • 2,295 posts
  • Joined 7 Years, 6 Months and 16 Days
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Toys R Us
  • Interests:My interests include, Marching, up and down the square, sniffing lines of cocaine from the breasts of buxom brunettes, and marching up and down the square,
Batman and Robin, but mostly, Batman.

#95
KB

KB

    POWERMAX!!!

  • RWG Crew
  • 20,857 posts
  • Joined 8 Years, 1 Month and 6 Days
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Downunder waayy downunder

They kicked the living shit out of a group of US Marine Force Recon that I worked with for awhile... They beat us bad.... and then spent all night out drinking, and then beat us bad again the next day.


Don't let it upset you CBR, thats an Aussie National pastime. :D


Ken

#96
Dani

Dani

    46

  • Member
  • 3,678 posts
  • Joined 8 Years, 1 Month and 6 Days
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Europe

I think the debate ends here !

The no.1 crack special forces team is.....

Posted Image

Ten years ago / In 1972, a crack commando unit was sent to prison by a military court for a crime they didn't commit. These men promptly escaped from a maximum security stockade to the Los Angeles underground. Today, still wanted by the government, they survive as soldiers of fortune. If you have a problem, if no one else can help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire... The A-Team.


Have coud i forget..
I agree.. :1a:

#97
The Mentalist

The Mentalist

    This just keeps on getting better...

  • Member
  • 488 posts
  • Joined 6 Years, 8 Months and 23 Days
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:London

I kinda blazed through the last 5 pages... has anyone considered that Private Military Companies may have the best special forces? I played with a few of the groups mentioned here and NONE of them had the training, experience or equipment that PMC's have access to.
One thing to consider is that someone in nearly any of these Govt. funded units can leave the unit, apply and be hired with a PMC and instantly make 3-5 x what they were while paid by the govt.
I have two very close friends who work for a PMC based in the UK. (Aegis International). They are extremely well trained, extremely disciplined and extremely well equipped.
And I didnt see that anyone mentioned the Australian Marines. They are not a "special forces" unit. But they are some well trained people. They kicked the living [censored] out of a group of US Marine Force Recon that I worked with for awhile... They beat us bad.... and then spent all night out drinking, and then beat us bad again the next day.



That may well be true as the vast majority of PMC personnel are ex-special forces anyway. To give you an example, my ex-SBS buddies now work as Veritas International, one of the world's leading maritime security companies. These guys are the number 1 choice of luxury yacht owners around the world including Paul Allen and Roman Abramovitch. I've seen these guys at work and given the kit, the resources and the huge financial incentives involved, they are as good as any serving military unit.

Edited by The Mentalist, 11 July 2008 - 03:33 AM.


#98
Seadweller4000

Seadweller4000

    Postmaster

  • Member
  • 1,166 posts
  • Joined 7 Years, 6 Months and 8 Days
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Funkystan
My vote goes to the SAS, 1st SFOD-D for military assignments and to the GSG9 for police assignments.
The GSG9 wins almost any competition vs other SWAT teams around the globe each year, btw.

#99
JohnG

JohnG

    RWG1.1 Member

  • Member
  • 1,738 posts
  • Joined 6 Years and 8 Days
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Spain

I kinda blazed through the last 5 pages... has anyone considered that Private Military Companies may have the best special forces? I played with a few of the groups mentioned here and NONE of them had the training, experience or equipment that PMC's have access to.
One thing to consider is that someone in nearly any of these Govt. funded units can leave the unit, apply and be hired with a PMC and instantly make 3-5 x what they were while paid by the govt.
I have two very close friends who work for a PMC based in the UK. (Aegis International). They are extremely well trained, extremely disciplined and extremely well equipped.
And I didnt see that anyone mentioned the Australian Marines. They are not a "special forces" unit. But they are some well trained people. They kicked the living [censored] out of a group of US Marine Force Recon that I worked with for awhile... They beat us bad.... and then spent all night out drinking, and then beat us bad again the next day.

I hacked one of the NSA´s Crays and downloaded a lot of archived Keyhole sat imagery. I found pics of the exercise you are referring to and to me it looks like you guys beat THEM.

#100
The Mentalist

The Mentalist

    This just keeps on getting better...

  • Member
  • 488 posts
  • Joined 6 Years, 8 Months and 23 Days
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:London

And I didnt see that anyone mentioned the Australian Marines. They are not a "special forces" unit. But they are some well trained people. They kicked the living [censored] out of a group of US Marine Force Recon that I worked with for awhile... They beat us bad.... and then spent all night out drinking, and then beat us bad again the next day.



Are you sure it wasn't the Australian cricket team?


0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users